Chat with Barry Jay and Cindy Whitmarsh - December 16, 2008


Bill All right. First of all, my name is Bill Flohr. I am the president of Optimax Fitness. We are the people who market Barry's Bootcamp and joining us tonight are Barry Jay and Cindy Whitmarsh.
Cindy Hi
Bill We are all I hope well familiar with as they visit you in your homes every day that you use the system. Our fist question tonight is from Evelyn for Barry and Cindy. What is the best diet you recommend to lose 10 lbs, I guess 10 lbs or more and get lean so what do you guys recommend?
Cindy Okay the best diet?
Bill Right the best diet?
Cindy Ok, well, it's really honestly about calories in and calories out so you really need to monitor your calories. It doesn't matter what your situation is and especially if you are someone who sits all throughout the day. The next most important thing is water. I recommend and Barry too between 80 oz, 120 oz. depending on your activity level. The next thing is completely cut out all sugar and white flour processed food. Eating every three hours is huge and eating the right mix of complex carbohydrates, lean proteins, and good fat throughout the day.
Barry You know most people are dehydrated and they don't even know it and they think they are hungry and they are thirsty.
Cindy Right.
Barry If you are hungry, the 1st thing you do is drink water and if you are not hungry anymore you weren't really hungry, just needing water. And she's so right if you are sitting all day long which most of us do. You know at like computers and stuff, you got to really consider your calorie intake. But it is so like Cindy said, calories in and calories out
Bill And guys hidden calories are things that people don't realize if you are trying to lose those last ten pounds. What do you do? What are the foods that people tend to slip up?
Cindy I really think-go ahead Barry. You go first.
Barry No you go first.
Cindy Honestly the biggest thing and people don't realize, People always think that going out to eat and eating salads is the best thing but salad dressings are the number one hidden fat that people just don't understand. When you go out to eat, a salad has like six tablespoons of dressing and each tablespoon has 12 grams of fat. Right there there's a huge hidden fact that people don't understand so I would really really monitor salad dressings and butter. Number one things.
Barry Yea that is so true about the salads. I'm so glad you said that. Because you go out all the time and think I just had a salad and they put the dressing on with a paint roller
Cindy Yeah.

Barry
And it's huge. I'm just saying read before I eat because knowledge is power and if you make yourself aware I think of what's going in before it goes in, you could make a decision.
Cindy Yeah, that's good.
Bill Let's move on. Our next is from chi's mama and chi's mama says it's always about motivation. How do you stay motivated in the dead freezing cold of winter? Stay motivated and it's tougher when it gets cold out.
Cindy I'm from North Dakota. I get it. Being motivated when you are living in freezing weather, and you can't run outside. You can't take a walk or whatever. I remember we would go to the mall and we would walk or run inside the mall. I think the biggest thing is getting an easy home gym and using the Barry's Bootcamp DVDs and every single day just plopping it in. If it's in the morning or if it's at night or whatever but plan it in your schedule. Plan it likes it's a meeting. Like we have meetings. We have to put that in our schedules. You put okay I'm doing Barry's Bootcamp at 8 am or 5 am whenever it is. But put it in. and make yourself do it like it's your kids school meeting or something that you have to do.
Barry Absolutely cause the most important thing- We all know that struggle with motivation. We don't have to have warm weather and nothing but a bathing suit on to stay motivated to be in shape. It should come from within. You always want your clothes to feel good. You want to have energy. You want to feel good. You don't want to play the beating yourself up game. I've been eating too much. That hour or so you set aside or those 15 minutes in the morning or 21 minutes at night. However you break it up with the DVDs and what not, it's your time and that get you through the rest of your day with positive thinking, feeling good, getting rid of that negative game. In the beginning, you actually just have to be a little bit better when you're thinking and you got to say , Ok I don't feel really motivated right now but guess what I'm going to do it anyway. But sometimes we do by taking action first We just got to. You got to set an example for yourself and it will inspire the people around you.
Cindy And Barry like the guide that we have- The starter's guide which it tells you to take before and after pictures to do the measurements. All of that stuff is really important because when you set your mind to do something, you have got to follow that plan. You have got to take the before picture. You have to look yourself in the mirror and say okay if this is the worst it's going to be it's not that bad and put it in and make a plan. Look at all of Barry's workouts the upper body the lower body the mission specialist . What are my problem areas? And plan it all out because there is something for everybody. So make a plan and then stick to your plan for the whole week.
Barry You've said some great wisdom.
Bill You guys are really terrific by the way. Evelyn wrote in by the way to tell you guys. She was our first question -that she is from Naples Florida and she's been doing it for a couple of months and she is down 7 pounds and we just want to say congratulations to her too.
Cindy Ah, that's so great.
Bill The next one comes from kat. With such limited time during the holidays is it better to do one long workout 3 times a week or a small workout every other day or every day? Is there wisdom to working out a longer time but less often or trying to work out every day?
Barry I don't know with schedules and she is saying her time is of the essence. It's do what you can one day at a time. If you got the hour today then use the hour today. If you've got 20 minutes today, then use the 20 minutes. You know because who knows what tomorrow will bring. And there is wisdom to each in it. I think you just got to do everything. I think it boils to we are people with full lives and you might have kids, a job, holidays, people visiting, people going away. Do everything you can. If you got an hour and a half today go for it use it because you might not have any time tomorrow.
Cindy I also think too, whatever amount of time you have. Give 100%. I mean the biggest thing is to expel the most amount of calories that you can. Be as active as possible and let's say you can only do a 12 minute mission specialist in a day throughout the day be as active as possible. Like when you are on the phone stand up don't sit down. Everything that you can in your life. Think how can I make this active. Cause every little thing adds up at the end of the week.
Barry Yeah you really are counting up those numbers and it really does make a difference and standing itself is better than sitting. Always eat right. Whether a strict workout schedule that doesn't allow you a lot of time or enough time you can always eat right.
Cindy For sure.
Bill And that kind of leads into the next question which comes from Cheryl. She says I heard loading up on certain carbs before a workout will help you get the most out of a workout. Is this true? If so what kind of carbs? How much is there? Anything you should be eating after a workout? So is there any wisdom to eating before? Should you eat before a workout? What should you eat? What should you eat after a workout to get the best results?
Cindy Okay I have an opinion on this since I have been doing this for 20 years. Nutrition, the biggest thing if you workout right in the morning when you wake up and you are going to work out right away and if you are one of those people who can work out on an empty stomach and get through it then you should do that. If you are one of those people who are hyperglycemic can't really get through a workout then you should definitely eat 30 minutes before you work out. Like a half of a cup of oatmeal and a half of a scoop of protein powder. That's the ideal meal because it's complex carbohydrates with a little bit of protein. Make sure you eat it at least a half hour before you work out and that would be the perfect meal. One thing you don't want to eat before you work out is something that has fat in it because fat digests slower into your bloodstream and will cause major problems to workouts. So something white like an apple or even an egg white but 30 minutes after you workout you should eat something that has a complete meal like a complex carbohydrate some type of a protein and some good fat because that will help replenish you.
Bill Okay that's great. You guys are terrific by the way. Glad we are doing this. The next question comes from Beth. If I were to use the upper body. Let me just say this Beth wants to have more definition in her arms by New Year's Eve. That's 15 days away. If I were to use the upper body workout daily for two weeks without a break is that going to put too much strain on my muscles and do you need to give your muscles a break? And this is important. We have that calendar but can you over workout? What happens with the code red? Say you have one week and you want to get into shape. Can you overdo it? And if you want to spot train if you want to have a specific. In Beth's example it's her arms. But if you want to watch your abs or your butt can you really get it done and when are you overdoing it?
Barry Well yeah I mean you can overdo anything. It's that old saying too much of a good thing and my experience when I first started I only did a few things I was going crazy with push ups and lifting and shoulders and this and a lot of upper body every day and then one day I felt a little strange in my left rotator cup and then for the next 8 months I couldn't do anything over it and that's not fun because you enjoy doing it. You want the benefits of doing it and then you can't do it because you've done it too much. So sure it's possible. What's good about ours is that a lot if it is resistance training and not heavyweights which is the way I did it and I learned from the experience. Cindy what do you think about this? I have heard many times that if you do too many abs they start protruding a little bit.
Cindy When you lift abs it's really difficult to get definition in your abs. Honestly, diet is like 70% of it. I'll train my abs everyday but it will be a mix of different things. It will do band work, it will be medicine ball work, it'll be all core training or whatever but when you start to feel sore in your abs you have to take a day off. I think that comes with anything. I mean you never want to lift with your upper body every single day or your lower body every single day. You have to change it up. And to see the maximum results, if she wants to see the maximum results in a little under two weeks diet is the biggest thing. But you for sure should maximize your time every other day for your upper body if you want to see those results and diet is huge. And cut off the sodium. You can absolutely overdo anything. You can train I feel abs more than you can do upper and lower body but you have to train it in different ways. Cross training is the most important thing.
Barry That period of recovery is very important also so that the muscle has time to heal.
Bill I'm going to feed you another question in a sec but let's talk about alcohol and the holidays because for holiday parties there's lots of alcohol around. What's okay? What's not okay? Hidden calories, what should people do or what should people at least be aware of?
Cindy Barry you want to go?
Barry Don't drink and drive or all of this is mute. But you know it's like food, it's like anything that we like, like that chocolate cake or that piece of pie or that heavy gravy meal, It's moderation. Play it safe. There are those low carb drinks. Vodka is low carb. I used to drink years ago vodka and diet coke because it was low carb but this is my thing with drinking especially with food is that if you drink too much you make bad choices.
Cindy Yeah.
Bill Yeah.
Barry I mean let's face it .
Cindy The other thing is that moderation is the key like Barry said but if you are going to go to a party make a plan. Plan ahead of time. So if you are going to have a drink, the best choice would be red wine. If you are going to drink, it has the least amount of calories. It's got some nutritional value that's not much and you are not mixing it with another fruit flavored drink or juice that has sugar in it. But make a pact with yourself and tell yourself I am going to have two glasses of red wine before you go into the party. Any time you have alcohol you have to have a protein with it so that you balance all the blood sugar. That's the most important thing. And then you have a glass of water in between the two drinks that you have. Go into the party ahead of time, know what you are going to have, and tell somebody so that they help you monitor what you are drinking.
Barry And that glass of water mentioned is wisdom. Have a glass of water in between your drinks and after. It makes the morning a little bit nicer too.
Cindy Yeah exactly.
Bill All right thanks. The next question is from Liz and this is one that comes up with every chat that we do. Why can't I lose these last pounds or 10 pounds in her case it's 5 pounds no matter what I do?
Cindy I'd have to look at her food log. Honestly, it comes down to keeping a food log and a fitness log and if you're not honest with yourself and I'm telling every single time a client comes in and they say I just can't lose these last bla bla bla. And I say okay I see the food log and I see the work out log and I will tell you 10 things that are wrong. And it's always either you are not eating enough or you are eating too much or you're not working out to a 100% of your ability.
Barry I'll tell you what I hear a lot of and I'm just going to call it right out there. I didn't have breakfast and around 12 o'clock I grabbed a couple of doughnuts. And I get it. You haven't eaten lunch; you're having a little dinner. You're having some doughnuts and you're having no breakfast and you still wonder well that shouldn't be so bad and it's just complete wrong science.
Cindy Right.
Bill All right, next on. For people who might just be joining us late, if you have a question, just type it in. Hit ask on your internet browser and it shows up to us here. The 1st 30 people tonight get a free Belly Blaster DVD as our holiday gift to you. And we really appreciate you all being here tonight. And taking part of it. It's the 1st time we are doing this audio chat on the phone and it's a lot more fun. To be honest with you.
Cindy How is it a lot more fun? Typing I hate it.
Bill Cindy uses two fingers to type.
Cindy Rude.
Bill This next one is from pammy, Is there a good dessert I can eat during the holidays and not feel guilty? And that's the whole thing, it's impossible not to give yourself a treat and what do you do? What are some good tips that way?
Barry I think we start resenting our lifestyle if we never have a treat. I think moderation again is the key and for myself I don't eat sugar. That's just a thing with me and it is almost two years and I used to but one of the things I had to do was find new desserts. There are lots of things. You know whip cream has no sugar. You can put some of that on a little bit of fruit. It's kind of fun. Also there are a lot of sugar free treats out there that are made with splenda. Which is better if you don't want to have sugar and you want to have less calories? If it's just a treat just don't make a daily habit out of it.
Cindy There's lower fat versions. Like angel food cake is a great lowfat cake. Something that is obviously better than regular. The thing is you don't want to overdo the sugar free thing too because I have had clients just overboard the sugarfree stuff and then you have huge gut problems. Also if you overdo the sugar free stuff, you start to crave sugar. Your enzymes in your mouth are like the enzymes that think you are eating sugar so it makes your body think you are eating sugar so it's like everything in moderation. As long as you are eating a really good healthy diet that's got the right kind of fat, the right kind of calories and protein and carbohydrates you shouldn't crave sugar. If you are craving sugar then there's probably something nutritionally that you are not eating right. We encourage you to email us and I would look over food logs. I've done that for people and it really really helps and moderation is the key. Like Barry says have little bites and don't deprive yourself of little bites so that you don't feel emaciated.
Barry And you know that for all of the stuff if you've noticed that me and Cindy say that almost every time if it's alcohol or treats or eating out it's moderation. It's the holidays; let's face it you are going to indulge. Don't over indulge.
Bill Next question from Chris, Hello I am a mother of 4. My son is 6 months now and I just started working out again and I weigh 125 but I am not happy with how I look. I want to get my stomach flat. How can I get rid of my pouch? What do you recommend and is it possible to get rid of that pouch? Some people think that after they have a baby that it's done. That nature's taken it course that way and Cindy by the way is a mother of 2. I guess Cindy you're best to answer this question first.
Cindy Okay so 4 children oh my gosh. Yeah I've had two c-sections and obviously when you have babies hormonally it's more difficult to get back into normal shape. 125 sounds like you are pretty lean but at the same time toning up is a different thing and that of course comes with nutrition. Barry's got some of the best workouts like the belly blaster and I think honestly being consistent with your workouts and your food will get that in shape. And those of us who have had kids we have to be a little more strict and little bit more consistent because hormonally it's just more difficult to get back into shape. Consistency and time and having more consistent good days than bad days will absolutely get you there. And you got to stay motivated cause just know that no matter what you can get there. I've had two c- sections. It just takes more dedication and time but you can do it.
Barry Time is so important. Patience. That's great words of advice and you know when you said consistency that's so important.
Cindy I know consistency. You can't be like I'm good for one week and then off two or good for 3 days. Those people say I've done everything. I've tried everything. No you haven't. You haven't been consistent for a long period of time and don't doubt that's what it takes, consistency.
Barry Yeah that's the keyword and I hope they get that message. The on and off thing never wins.
Cindy Nope never.
Bill And let me ask the converse question for men that are getting older and they start having that belly. Is that inevitable?
Barry No it's not; it's not inevitable at all. It's not just because we live in Los Angeles that I see flat stomachs. It's because of the consistency. We are not doing the late eating. We are not eating the yeast and the flour and the wheat and stuff and we are watching the sodium and we are not guzzling the beers. You know beer belly got a name for a reason it really doesn't matter. You are what you eat.
Cindy And Barry don't you think too , I've looked at so much research when it comes to women getting older and men getting older, the thing is that as we get older we are more inactive. We're inactive in our daily life. We're inactive in like our workouts. We're just more tired and so we become less active and that all plays a role. You see women that are 80 years old or 60 years old or whatever and they are running marathons. They're in the best shape of their lives because they have not given in to okay I'm older I'm tired. I'm going to sit my butt on the couch and you know what I mean it's like you have to make decisions. You're getting older. Yes hormones play a big role. You have to take it into your own hands and say yes you know me. I 'm not going to let my body take the toll of age. I have to be more motivated and more educated on what it takes to be fit when you get older.
Barry Yeah and exercise isn't something for the young. You know my dad could do some exercise and the doctor tells him to. He is going to be 80 in February and there's a pool in the apartment complex and he said you should be in it.
Cindy Right.
Bill All right
Barry It's the only body we get. No one gets to change.
Bill Not yet anyway
Barry Not yet.
Bill Okay our next question from soccermom
Cindy Hi I love soccer mom woohoo
Bill She is a newcomer to Barry's Bootcamp and she writes I am in my first week and I am so sore. Can you be too sore to workout? Should you take more than a day off if you're too sore or do you just work through it and why do you get sore? Why is it so we have heard this from people who work out a lot and people who just come in to Barry's Bootcamp. Why is that soreness? What's it all about? It feels like the next day you feel sore and the next day after that you feel really really sore. What's it all about and how do you make it better?
Barry Well do you want to talk to soccer mom or do you want me to?
Cindy Go ahead Barry.
Barry Well she has quite a few questions you know. It's new. A lot of the DVDs are things people don't do on their own. So they've seen these DVDs so you're challenging your muscles in a new way and you are pushing them probably further than you would on your own. And therefore they are working hard and they are getting sore and yes it's always okay to work if you're sore. I mean you are just sore. Not injury sore, but just sore, sure, you can work through sore and you always want to stretch do the cool downs get warmed up maybe do a little stretch before if you are extra sore. But you are fine to workout that's the answer to your question. It's been a workout question since I entered the world. Why is the second day worse than the first? Why do we get so sore? And certain things no matter how hard I work my arms and stuff I haven't been sore in a year or two. You know I would have to do something completely different to get sore.
Cindy You're working muscles and trying to get back into shape - working out muscles that haven't been working in a while. The elastic acid builds up, especially in 48 hours after you work out that's when it really sits in. that's when you are sore in two days. You know as long as you are working out right. As long as you are working out how we planned it on the schedule. It's upper body and lower body and alternating the days. You know if you are so sore that honestly it really hurts you might take a day that you just do the abs, you know the ab workout. Take that body part and give it a little bit of a rest and do something that will change it up a little bit or go for a run or something but we try to set it up so that you are working upper body then lower body. We've given you so many different types of workouts. The mission specialist. We've got the abs and all that. You know if you've got a body part that's sore you do an opposing muscle group. Regardless you should do something active every single day and there is no question if you want to see results but soreness is normal. I mean I still get sore. When you fatigue that muscle it's going to be sore and it's a matter of working through it and being consistent.
Barry And if you are just new to it. You'll never be as sore as the beginning weeks.
Cindy Yeah.
Barry It gets better it's just that you are really new to it.
Cindy For sure
Bill All right our next question is from Audrey
Barry Hi Audrey.

Bill

If I have to take time off from working out. When I start up again. Do I start up as a beginner or where I left off? She's from Colorado springs. She reached her goal. She lost 46 lbs which is amazing. She's taken time off. Since then she's ready to do Barry's Bootcamp again because she says that her fat thighs are coming back and is it a yo-yo thing, is it harder to get in shape if you do yo-yo, if you lose a lot of weight and then gain it back, is it harder to lose it the second time and do we know anything scientifically about that

Cindy Your muscle has memory. You'll absolutely respond faster the second time because your muscle remembers where it was, but the most important way to avoid the yo-yo is being consistent with your diet. Not a diet, it should be a lifestyle. I know people go 100% on the fitness and forget the diet part of it but if you really focus on both of it and make both of them a lifestyle instead of going really really hard for two weeks and then off for one week, Barry don't you feel that that is one of the consistent messages that we really need to get across that even if you only have 10 minutes in your day don't let that ten minutes go by. Do that 10 minutes and then every day do something because going on and off it , the yo-yo, that's what set you up for failure. It's just forgetting a day, you know just forget 10 minutes, just do it.
Barry And Audrey, don't worry when you come out to Disneyland I am going to run you around the park
Bill Do you know Audrey?
Barry Audrey's a main squeeze gal on the website. I just love and adore Audrey and her story is amazing. You know what Audrey? it's a rollercoaster ride, just don't be too hard on yourself for the little stops along the way. In fact Cindy says stay consistent, and your muscle has memory so just get right back on it. If you see those thighs coming back. Just shake that feeling right away. You know what to do, cause you've already done it. Take out your DVDs. Get back to work. Eat right. Like Cindy says, it's a lifestyle. Sometimes that lifestyle slips for a moment you know we take a little vacation but just get right back on the horse. You can do it.
Bill Alright perfect, this next question is from Michelle. What are some great healthy breakfast foods instead of cereal and with that question too is cereal a good breakfast food? And by the way what do both of you do for breakfast? Do you believe in that big meal breakfast or if you 're just not hungry don't eat?
Barry Oh I believe that breakfast is a must. It's always my biggest meal. I believe in a little bit of plain oatmeal, no raisins no sugar or anything. I have egg whites and turkey bacon.
Cindy Well that's perfect.
Barry And sometimes spinach
Cindy Another thing too, breakfast is to jumpstart your metabolism. It's the number one thing. Unless you wake up at 5 and you are going to work out, then you might have a little bit of something. The most important thing is breakfast and having like Barry said the oatmeal, the egg whites, a complex carbohydrate in the morning with protein is the best-the problem with cereal is that it's processed, anything that comes out of a box is processed. That can have a big impact on your blood sugar and that's why oatmeal is a better choice. I know a lot of people say. I 'm going to get up, have a little cereal, have some milk, and then I 'm going to have a banana and some juice and right there you've had every once of carbohydrate you should have in an entire day. So it's better to do something that is a little heartier like oatmeal. Or if that is too hearty for you or you don't like that then do an egg white omelet with maybe a wheat piece of toast. But breakfast is the most important thing
Bill Terrific. The next one is from Pammy. I'm just going to go through these quickly because we have a lot of questions. By the way if you do want to keep and continue to ask questions and follow-up questions, again, just go to the browser and hit ask and we are getting through them as quickly as we can. We have a couple of people asking why their questions are getting skipped. They are not getting skipped we are just trying to take them in the order that you are asking them. Let me give you another one here we go
Barry Bill, you have such a good recording voice.
Bill Barry that's nice of you to say. I think we have one here from Julie. I'm just going to put this up because I have to fetch another screen. Is it true? Do men lose weight faster than women? Is there anything to that?
Cindy Yes, genetically men have more muscle. I mean it's just a proven fact. So typically not all men of course. Men have more. Muscle burns more fat than fat does. Genetically men lose weight faster than women do.
Bill Well that's not fair.
Cindy I know it sucks.
Barry I'm just smiling and gloating because it's true.
Bill Here is the next one from heather. Sometimes I find I can't make the full 60 seconds. I don't think people realize that 60 seconds can be a lot when you're going 100%. Should she pause the DVD and wait until she is ready to finish? Or just let it keep playing and do what you can? And what is the wisdom behind this 60 seconds of working out at 100%. What's the goal when you're doing that?
Barry That's a two-fold question. I think the answer to your first question, 'do I pause it or should I keep going?' is either. You can do both. Try it one way, try it the other way , keep going back and forth , either would be okay. I think what you are doing here is you are willing to give your best during that 60 seconds and if you give it your all you make it to 45 and you just want to do those last 15 , well pause it. Take 2 seconds, take a deep breath, it won't take you that much longer to have that last 15 seconds I promise you and get right back into it . If you keep doing it you are going to hit the minute no matter what. Everyone's got a minute. The theory is that you can work really hard. That's the key to success here is working really hard and eating really right, and you can work hard for 60 seconds
Cindy Sorry Barry I totally interrupted you. I totally agree with that. I think if you keep it in and don't stop it, if you need to take a break, march it out or do something active for that minute then you will know for the next time what it 's going to take to get through the entire minute. As long as you are being active and doing something. Barry doesn't want you to sit there, stop, and do nothing. But if you just shake it out, maybe march, maybe jog in place or do whatever it is, then you watch the DVD and see what everybody is doing. I think hanging with the group and just being active in your own way would be better than stopping it and waiting and sitting there doing nothing. You don't want to be inactive, because then, you'll get a little bit more slower. Hang with the group and just be active.
Barry And you have to remember that no matter what, if you keep doing anything in this life you are going to get better at it
Cindy Yeah
Barry Just keep doing it and keep doing it, you'll see, you'll have that minute down in no time
Cindy Totally.
Bill Okay next question. Well there is just one quick follow-up from Heather and it kind of relates back to the holiday and maybe you guys have some tips for the holiday too but with all the cocktail parties or the office parties and things the buffet table what are the things out there that people should stay away from and conversely what are the things you can have if you are going to be at a party that's got all that food laid out. How do you make a good healthy choice?
Barry You leave.
Cindy Don't go, okay this is funny, I was just at a party last night and there was so much food. Just a bunch of you know the same stuff that's at the buffet tables. I grabbed a small plate. I grabbed one of those little tiny plates. I went through the buffet. I picked out the shrimp. I picked out the vegetables. I picked out things that did not have cream sauce on it did not have cheese on it. Nothing breaded, put no bread on my plate, but it was full of protein and vegetables. I sat there and had a glass of red wine and water and I fit in with everybody. It was no problem. You have to make the right choices before you go in.
Barry That's so true. There was this beautiful, I mean beautiful little buffet dinner thing that my friend, whose name is also Barry, took me to and I went around that table and I'm telling you there was plenty to choose from. There were these little mini turkey burgers and I took three of them. I took the buns away and had these three little patties. And I took the vegetables. I skipped the dessert and I drank water. I had little bubbly water and my plate was full also and it was really good. When it was done I don't have to be obsessed with it, believe it or not, people don't care all that much they see something on your plate they're not analyzing it.
Cindy Right.
Barry They don't care what's on their own plate.
Cindy And Barry don't you think it's a mindset like clients? We're going to go eat so I am just going to blow my diet. People have this mindset that if you go into a party or you go to dinner you have to eat just whatever you want because you're going out ,it's new, it's different, or because it's a party. It doesn't have to be like that. Especially if you are somebody who is very social or somebody who travels a lot. You can't have that mindset because if you do you are really screwed, because all of a sudden every time you go out it's a big deal. You overeat you overanalyze. Just make it like a normal day.
Barry It's so true that our minds are the first things to go into gear and we are not all about what cakes they'll have what treats they'll have , what food they'll have. You know we are just about the people enjoying a good time out, enjoying putting up decorations for the holidays, and doing stuff like that. I was loving the house, loving the view, loving the people, and I just a had a little food on my plate and I ate. I had friends of mine at the party who went there with the mindset of 'ooh I can't wait to eat a cake'. They had that cake long before it was put out on the table so the decision was made. Cindy's so right, you make those decisions going in and it's a lot like drinking. You have something to do in the morning and you have a party the night before and you are like no I am not going to drink. I have a big meeting in the morning, presentation, it's the same thing. It's like no I'm going to work out tomorrow, I want to feel good. I'm not going to overdo the treat thing.
Cindy Yeah.
Bill Ok our next question comes from fit mary and she says I've heard you shouldn't eat out after 7 pm, I'm sorry just eat, you can eat in. Does this really work? She's from Greensboro GA. So does the time of day when you are eating when you get home late from work or when the TV's on and it's 9 o'clock 10 o'clock and you just have to have that snack are those calories worse for you then let's say something you would eat during the day.
Cindy There's no scientific proof that if you don't eat late, you are going to lose weight but here's the deal. Typically if you eat all your calories earlier in the day and you eat every three hours and you eat the right amount of calories before 7 o'clock you are going to lose weight, because typically the foods that you eat after 7 o'clock are the foods that are inappropriate. I have everybody on a certain amount of calories and calories do count but if you get home at 8 o'clock at night and you haven't had your dinner and you need that amount of calories in your day you should eat your dinner. It's really true. It's calories in calories out, but typically the person who eats early is the person who is lighter. There's nothing scientific but it's the truth.
Barry I heard, and tell me if I am wrong, I heard this and actually read something about it. That it is three hours before you go to bed, so if you go to bed at 1 o'clock you could eat until like 10, but again it's calories in and calories out because you can't eat over your calories just because you are up until one in the morning. But if you are it's okay because you are still up. But if you are not up then no do not just sit around and go to sleep with it. A lot of guys like me they don't want to eat muscle and if they don't' eat after 7 they don't get up until after 6 in the morning that's a lot of hours to go without food. I know some guys that, like at 1 o'clock at night, will have a little cottage cheese just before bed just so that their body feeds on in through the night.
Cindy Oh yeah no question
Barry And again I always go back to saying because it's what Cindy just said. It's the ultimate , 7 o'clock, 10 o'clock, 11 o'clock, calories in calories out.
Cindy Yep.
Bill I'm going to post this question because I want it to be clear. Amy wants to know she is confused. You guys say no sugar, careful carbs, but fatburn says and you guys say a calorie is a calorie right so if it' just about calories in and calories out what' s the difference what you eat if you are just talking numbers and she says within reason of course you can't eat a diet of chocolate but what's it matter cereal versus oatmeal that sort ?
Cindy Okay I understand that question. It's not only calories in calories out. A calorie of sugar compared to a calorie of protein are completely different on your blood sugar. Let's say you eat a hundred calories of cereal versus a hundred calories of oatmeal the cereal has more impact on your blood sugar which spikes the blood sugar. When your blood sugar spikes it causes the body to create more insulin to bring that blood sugar down. That huge influx of blood glucose insulin is what causes your body to store fat so having that huge spike makes this weird thing in your body to produce extra insulin and now your body is in whack. It's trying to bring the body back to homeostasis. And that huge transition makes your body store fat. So that's why it's about maintaining an even blood sugar throughout the day. Eating every two to three hours having low glycemic foods which is like oatmeal and fruit and corn products and whatever and having protein with that because you are trying to maintain that even blood sugar and that's the difference between a good carb and a bad carb a good calorie and a bad calorie.
Barry That's all perfectly said. I'm not going to try to add to it. And let's say you came off of a diet of chocolate. I wouldn't have a bar in the morning instead of breakfast and say oh its 250 calories. If you have a candy bar for 250 calories I'm sorry but that's not a meal. I just can't trade a meal in for a candy bar at 45 years old. And I got to think to my self if my nephew or niece were visiting me would I do that to them. The truth is those calories are empty and you are going to be hungry any way
Bill Okay here is the next question from Shelly and it goes to foods. Organic foods does it really make a difference? In your opinion and are there cost effective solutions cause you can go into the market and it can cost a lot? Cindy do you want to take that one on?
Cindy Truly organic has no effects except for the pesticides and if you really believe that that is going to be better for your body it has no effect on losing weight or not losing weight. If you can afford organic they say there is no scientific proof that it is better for your body it sounds like it should be better for your body but at this stage in the game there isn't scientific proof that it is or isn't so it's really more of a preference.
Bill The next one comes from patty from freezing Iowa. Love you guys I do your workouts everyday at 6 am she's lost 27 lbs which is terrific and it came off fast 2-3 lbs a week. But here's my dilemma I still have 12 lbs to go to reach my goal and the weight loss just stopped and I am assuming that she is being pretty consistent with her food because we addressed that question earlier, but again it's a common thread we see on the chat boards and a common question that we get during this chats is it just stops. Can you plateau? Is it possible that your body just gets so use to something that you wont lose more weight or is there just a natural set point of your body that maybe that's who you are? Or can you really do something about those last pounda?
Cindy No, you got to double it up, you have to do 2 a day, you have to push it pass your normal threshold. Barry don't you agree when we are getting ready for something I'll work out two times a day I'll workout in the morning. I'll workout at night. I'll push myself to the point where I think I can't be pushed and all of a sudden I break the plateau. There is no plateau that can not be broken if you are doing everything perfectly and that means eating perfect and that means doing two a day. It means doing whatever it takes passed the point where you think is normal.
Barry Just to shake that plateau, tightening up that food adding those workouts and Cindy I don't know about you but we are going on QVC in the middle of January and I'm doing the same thing I'm trying to buckle down doing a little extra working out a little harder eat a little lighter .
Bill Actually we are going to be on QVC on January the 13th so a big launch so we are all very excited about that a lot of people have been writing in also asking when do we have new products coming out and at this point it looks like march we are going to have some new products coming out that are more specifically body targeted and don't require the transformer ball so that they're more compact workouts you can take with you if you've deflated the ball or you are on the go or you just want a quick workout that will be a little shorter in length and also I believe that they are going to be about $14.95 and have special piece of equipment that come with them for people asking those questions. And Cindy while I am choosing another question for you it takes some time because this is on the internet for the questions to come through here Cindy has a new TV show that's out and we saw it premier a couple of weeks ago and it was a lot of fun and was wondering if you can tell everybody a little bit about that.
Cindy Yeah. It's on the style network and everybody's cable is different so you have to go to your cable guide and look for style but it's called fat free fiancee and it's so fun and it's myself and another trainer. I feel bad I was cheating on Barry with another trainer but it was two different couples twelve weeks before their wedding. And we just went in and nutritionally and fitness wise completely changed their entire lifestyle and we are talking about hitting plateaus and trying to make a difference in your life. And I always tell people and I know Barry does too, you have to make a dramatic difference in your life you, have to make a dramatic change to see results. You can't just like do this and do that what we did was we took this two people's lives and told them exactly what they need to do for twelve weeks and it was a dramatic change in both couples. This one couple airs all of December and the other one airs in January and it's called fat free fiancee and it was awesome. It was a great experience and just telling you that looking at these couples and what they had to do in twelve weeks completely changed their entire lives. That's something that I think everybody can learn from you know really if you want to make a change in your life .You have to commit to it and that's what this is about it was a really cool show and I'm proud of it .
Bill And it's really fun to watch too. What about new year's resolutions coming up on the new year do you guys believe in them do you make them yourselves every year do you find that they are a recipe for disaster because people set unrealistic goals how do you set a realistic goal ?
Barry Well I'll be honest I am not a huge believer in them. I mean we have the day that we are in and we can make this day just as important as January 1st however it's about staying motivated in 2009 coming around the corner like many people in the world latch on to this is going to be my chance to make a difference this year. Well let's make a difference this day, even on January 1st and make all sorts of goals. How about my long-term goals? How about my daily goals? How about my somewhere in between goal? You got to make reasonable expectations of yourself otherwise you set yourself up for let down if you can just say on January 1st. I 'm just going to workout today. I'm going to eat better today and grasp on to that and have a long term goal of one day eating perfectly according to what you've learned to be great science of food for your body because that might not happen overnight but it doesn't mean you can't start with oh I am not going to have dairy today.
Cindy Barry that's so true. I don't believe in them either. Every day I live like that it's my lifestyle but I know that people really believe in that okay this is a new year so if you are going to do that then make your goals reasonable. Make them measurable. Have a certain weekly goal and like a long-term goal because if you just go new year I am going to lose weight and then you don't know how you are going to do it you have to figure out how you are going to do it. Get Barry's Bootcamp. Lay everything out. Make a weekly goal and then a monthly goal and a six month goal. Because if you don't set goals it's just out there and you're not going to reach it so the most important thing is making sure that you will be able to measure your weekly goals and set yourself up for success instead of failure.
Barry And one thing that I am a believer in not to get too much into it but I am a huge believer in affirmations. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do that. I am great looking. I am active. I am terrific. I am doing great. Tell yourself great things. Don't put up in the future for somebody who is not you--- buy yourself a new workout outfit get yourself clean shoes the new running sneakers whatever it is invest a little bit in you.
Bill What do you guys do? Everywhere you look on the news now or talk to friends it seems like all there is bad news out there and it's hard not to get dragged down by that and it's hard to say ah you know what I'm just not going to work out today. I think it is easy to fall into that trap I think we all kind of are victims to that how do you not become that how do you not become negative in a world like this .
Barry I would actually suggest watching less news. I know things aren't great but there is plenty to be grateful for. And at the end of the day it boils down to family and friends our real lives you know I heard somebody say if money is your only problem you don't' have problems
Cindy Yeah
Barry You've got your family and your friends and so much to be grateful for.
Cindy I totally agree Barry so many people right now are having so many issues. I was on a trip in Arizona with my family and I just sat there and just looked at my girls. I have two little girls and they are so amazing. I'm so thankful for them. You should be putting every ounce of energy into your kids and into your life and into bettering yourself. For me when I was on vacation I went for a run every day, had the best songs in my ipod like inspirational songs and things that make you feel good about life and getting up and getting moving because the worst thing you can do is sit around and think about how bad your life is and how bad the economy is. And that negative talk is a disaster in your life. You've got to pick what is the program? How can I make that successful? And how can I make me successful by feeling better? What I do I put in my workouts? I workout every single day? I feel better about myself and that's what gets you through all these rough times.
Bill And the endorphins kick in, that's one of the good things.
Cindy Absolutely .
Barry We can't change this world. We have to accept it but we're on an upswing. We've got a brand new president coming in. It's a new year things got bad this country has healed before and every time it's gotten stronger so we are going to heal again and get even stronger again. But meanwhile we can do a lot of that on our own in the world in keeping ourselves in check and just being grateful. I mean look around at your family and realize how much you do have and what a great place America really is still today. It's a great place we're so fortunate.
Cindy Totally.
Bill Here's another question from Sue and Barry I know this is something you've been working on. What should I do after the 1st 30 days is there another plan that you follow and what should that plan be? So you've done the 30 day program. You are really at that point and pretty advanced in terms of the amount of workout that you can do. What's the best plan? How do you move forward from there?
Barry Two things are that we've got a new calendar in the works. And 2) Work harder maybe make the resistance bands a little tougher on some exercises. These resistance bands exercises are so ideal because you can easily swap out the resistance from exercise to exercise.
Bill This is a little self servicing question but I want to ask it any way because I think there might be something here. Why do you think Barry's works when so many other systems have not worked for people. We hear people that have tried everything out there and finally this is the thing that works for them. Do you guys have an opinion about that and what is it about the interval training or whatever part of the system that gets the results.
Cindy I have an opinion honestly interval training for me is what got me in shape after I moved here from North Dakota. Interval training and good nutrition but the thing is it's really about the amount of energy that you put in to the workout. If you are just are mediocre and don't push yourself, you won't see the results. It's about pushing yourself pat the point that you normally would. Every minute he pushes you to the point were you think you can't do it. but it's only a minute. You're only pushing yourself to the minute. Also it's a psychological thing in your mind you go okay its only a minute. I can do it. but if you really do it for that minute and then we give you that break I mean anybody can do that and it's about pushing yourself past the point that you really wouldn't do before and interval training you're up and you're down and you're up and you're down but you get your heart rate up past the point of normalcy and then throughout the day your heart rate is up higher than it normally would be if you were just walking on the treadmill or sitting on the bike or something. It really pushes you past the point of normalcy.
Barry Amen
Bill Here's kind of a follow-up to that. How do you know if you've pushed your body really to its limits. if you stop getting sore does that mean you should push further and that you've reached a new limit? Or is like soreness a natural thing for your body as you're going through this program. and how far do you push how far do you keep pushing?
Barry Honestly, I think it's a long answer depending on who you are. I know on chest day pretty regularly I lay down with 80 lb dumbbells. It's what I'm able to do today and in the past recent 6 months. Sometimes I get past 80 maybe on my best day 90 but I don't get sore. So what am I going to do? How can I push the dumbbells harder than that? I have to switch it up. I have to do something that is completely different and not as hard maybe like a lighter weight and higher reps. But don't let sore dictate if you've worked out enough. In the beginning you'll be sore but eventually your body will start to adapt to working out and you won't get sore. You need to be results driven, not sore driven.
Cindy I totally get that especially with the Barry's Bootcamp workout. We've tried to give different exercises and different workouts. Sore that means you fatigued the muscle but you shouldn't be sore all the time in the beginning you might be. The most important thing is cross training doing different things at all times to work your muscles in different ways. If you are not ever sore in a week you should step it up and maybe you do 3 different workouts in a day or like Barry said add another band in or push yourself pass the point because if you are only working out for 20 minutes or 10 minutes you should really be pushing yourself. I think the whole idea is cross training that is why we try to give you different types of workouts to step it up.
Bill We have time for a few more questions. I'm going to kind of rush through these so that we can get a few more in. This next one is from hip chick. I got a great dress I'm trying to squeeze in to for new year's eve what can I do to really maximize my weight loss over the next two weeks.
Barry code red
Cindy red I was going to say that too code red
Barry code red
Cindy And follow that code red diet honestly if you do code red your psyched
Barry You know the Code Red diet is key too it but you've got two weeks no time for treats
Bill You really got to honker down in that case
Barry You got to follow that code red diet plan for two weeks to the word
Bill And if you are going to work out twice a day is it better to do one long workout where you're just totally exhausted or to do two separate workouts if you are really trying to load it up.
Cindy I also think you should change it up. I think one day you should do two different workouts, the next day you should do one long workout the most important thing is doing different things cross training
Barry That's exactly what I was going so say, do them both you don't have to just do one or the other.
Bill This next one is from misty. I'm 5 ft 4 in and I have 30 lbs to lose realistically. If I stick to a healthy diet and do all the workouts how long do you thin it will take to lose the weight?
Cindy 30 lbs
Bill 30 lbs right. She's 5 ft 4 and they say 2 to 3 lbs a week is healthy. Why would 4 lbs be unhealthy. Is there a way to lose more weight because certainly some people lose more than 2 or 3 lbs. Certainly some people weigh 200 lbs or 250 lbs and it seems to me that they would lose maybe more weight maybe not more weight as a percentage but certainly more pounds per week.
Cindy You know what if you honestly want to lose more than 2 to 3 lbs per week you have to step it up. You have to workout more than 20 minutes a you're going to have to step it up and be consistent with it. If you truly want to get there continue on your lifestyle plan. If you lose 20 pounds in a month and then you stop it's unhealthy you know you have to continue it you got to step it up. Maybe after the workout go for a run for 20 minutes or do three of the various workouts in a row or two in the morning and one at night it's about pushing yourself past the point.
Barry And misty you want to be patient you got to think of how long it took to get it on and remember it will be coming off but the most important thing is whether it takes 6 weeks 8 weeks 16 weeks 20 weeks it's going to be coming off
Bill Here's the next one from Michelle. How many calories should you eat a day? Now I know fatburn has you go through a bunch of questions and it comes up with an approximate calorie amount that you should have per day. Can you eat too few calories and what's the danger of that and if you're going to air on side or the other what's healthier?
Cindy Nobody should eat less than 1200 calories per day. I don't care who you are how short you are how inactive you are there is nobody who should eat less than that and if you do eat less than that you are going to slow you metabolism down. Your body becomes cold. Think of a hot body versus a cold body. If your body becomes cold that means it's inactive. It will not burn calories so then you've trained your body to burn less calories so now your body is cold. It's sitting there and it's not burning any calories then oh all of a sudden you ate 1600 calories that day because you ate a doughnut and then your body says I don't know what to do with that so it stores it as fat. You have to train your body to be a metabolic machine that means you need to eat every three hours and you need to eat the appropriate amount of calories which fatburn shows you. It's really increasing your metabolism. It's not about how few calories you can eat. It's about how do you fill your body so that you can work out like a machine and make your body like a fat burning machine .
Bill All right I think that's a good place toÉany final advice for everybody here in terms of the holidays sticking to it that you guys would like to impart and what are your stumbling blocks? I mean you both are in incredible shape but you weren't always What kind of secrets? Any final words that you want to give for surviving the holidays and setting a good goal for the new year and staying positive?
Cindy Barry do you want me to go first or do you want to go first?
Barry I was just kind of deep in thought about it. It's a good question.
Cindy I know I wasn't always fit when I moved here from North Dakota I was 40 lbs over weight and my biggest downfall was sugars. One day I made a conscious decision and said you know what I'm just going to give myself six weeks to not eat sugar at all. Eat perfectly every three hours the- right mix of food. The same menu that 's on the Barry Bootcamp thing and I told myself I am just going to be the best that I can be. I mean honestly I was eating gumballs I was eating licorice. I was eating cereal I had diet soda but I made that conscious decision and in the six weeks. Not only did I lose a ridiculous amount of weight but I realized that I felt so much better by not eating that way and I not only lost some weight but started to feel better. I'm thought oh my gosh I would never go back to the way I used to be and not continue this thing. The compliments I got from people the things it just became overwhelming I chose my lifestyle in just six weeks because I made a conscious decision and I'll end this really quick you have to make a decision you have to say what do I want out of life? What do I want? Do I want to lose weight? Do I want to be healthy? You have to make a conscious decision and be deliberate about it and make it be the biggest thing of your life. You can't half ass it because if you do oh today I'll do this tomorrow- I'll do that. It's not going to work. You have to make a decision. You have to do it. You have to drink your water. Skip all the diet sodas. Say no to things you would never say no to and I'm telling you it empowers you to change your life.
Barry You know that's so right. With me I remember a lot of times when I was starting out and even along the way I got into feeling bad like the easiest thing to do is to feel bad about ourselves. We didn't eat something right. We missed a workout. Oh I missed two days. It's like think of all the progress when you didn't have the DVDs last year and you weren't eating right at all. You weren't on fatburn. Look at the past year and think of all the progress you've done. Have goals. Pat yourself on the back during the holidays. If you fall off, you missed your workout, you had a bad meal, just don't play the beating yourself up game
Cindy Barry that's such a good point. Good job keep going.
Barry It's the holidays , enjoy them and do the best you can throughout them
Bill We are out of time and I was going to say thank you but cats posted this and I think it says it all. Thanks for saying straight up you have to commit and work hard. It's good knowing that you guys are there and doing everything right and it makes me want to try harder. Keep the good faith and that's from cat in Maryland. So on behalf from all of us here thank you guys so much for your time and thank you all the people who asked the questions. We were overwhelmed by questions tonight and we're just almost at a thousand people who have posted so up to a thousand questions not a thousand people so we're going to do it again. For us it's a lot more fun to do it this way if people enjoyed this process enjoyed this forum. We sure would like to hear from you. You can just post it now and I will keep posting your comments along the way remember Barry and Cindy are on QVC on January the 13th . You can't call in unless you are a customer of QVC and have bought this product but if you want to pick up one for a friend that's one way that you always could but we always appreciate the feedback and are really proud of everybody and all the work that you've done. On behalf of everybody here have a great holiday we'll keep posting the questions. Barry and Cindy thank you, thanks again.
Barry Thank you
Cindy Thank you guys it was so fun
Bill Didn't have to type this time.
Bill I'll keep posting these as we go but Barry and Cindy thank you and good night
Cindy Good night, bye

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